Possibly dumb question... minions! - Guild Wars Forums

hukoten · Dec 06, 2011, 04:01 AM // 04:01

looked around the forums and google a bit and didnt see anything on this... is there a minion cap per party? or is it always per character/hero?

also, has anyone tried a full minion party? decent mix of skills, but all rits, necros and maybe a ranger or two. is it terrible, op or just plain silly? XD

i kind of want to play around with a full minion hero party but i'd have to go get a fair amount of other skills before i do, so i thought i'd ask

Da Kenster · Dec 06, 2011, 04:20 AM // 04:20

My understanding is that the cap is limited to the individual character and not to the party. When you run multiple MMs they can take up to the cap limit of minions each, so i would assume that this is the case. The rest would depend on the number of corpses/variety of spirits you can summon, I would assume. Nothing like the old days of a real minion rush...

Calista Blackblood · Dec 06, 2011, 04:40 AM // 04:40

Minions are limited by your rank in death magic http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Death_Magic

Aura of the Lich and Masochism will both raise this number

gremlin · Dec 06, 2011, 06:15 AM // 06:15

There is a limit per party if you use blood of the master to heal the minions.

I have managed to run 3 minion masters and most of the time they had between 8 and 9 minions each.
However when you cast bom to heal your minions you heal all 24 which gives a substantial dip in health.

If you find another method of healing your army you can in theory get a bigger army.

Kendil · Dec 06, 2011, 08:33 AM // 08:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by gremlin

There is a limit per party if you use blood of the master to heal the minions.

I have managed to run 3 minion masters and most of the time they had between 8 and 9 minions each.
However when you cast bom to heal your minions you heal all 24 which gives a substantial dip in health.

If you find another method of healing your army you can in theory get a bigger army.

Healing circle or healing area works quite well with blood of the master as you'll heal yourself up as well as the minions around you.

The biggest hindrance would be the number of corpses. Also be sure to bring skills such as mark of pain in order to increase your damage output.

Anime Divine · Dec 06, 2011, 10:28 AM // 10:28

we already have that its called sabway or discordway :P
however when i play discord and have plenty of minions to build usually around 10/12 i also use a spirit wall (sos) i find that i can rush into battle as warrior take initial damage and minions take 2nd damage and if enemy warriors escape to the back while your still fighting the front line the spiritwall gives an awesome block. so its kinda like 3 defensive lines now.

and you can never go full minion bar only 2 minion skills are enough to create minions till capped. + you need some damage to kill nad create bodys for minions

Rushin Roulette · Dec 06, 2011, 12:47 PM // 12:47

Nope, there is no cap to the amount of minions in the party or the allies.

Ive played Vizunah Square with 2 synced teams of each 8 Minionmaster players.

I think we managed to get the max amount of minions on every player once or twice in the whole mission. Was a gret blast... especially as we all used Blood of the Master before killing the last foe ending in a gigantic planned wipe (The survivors were creamed by the rogue minions

).

LanaDarkess · Dec 06, 2011, 01:15 PM // 13:15

I was told that the maximum for a character/hero is 10, even if your death magic is over 17. But even so, if the max rank in death magic is 20, and assuming you can get 12 minions at that level, if you had 8 members in a party, all MM (don't know why one would do that, but anyway...) that would come to a total of 96 minion cap.

The only problem I have with being MM/having MM heroes is that I/they lag behind ALL THE TIME -.-

Spiritz · Dec 06, 2011, 02:10 PM // 14:10

As pointed out bom can be a pain with multiple mm`s - there is also a slight problem with mm`s - if they are heros they will try and spam raise undead even if they are at max amount.Another slight problem thats noticable with mm`s is the hero ai insists that - if the mm has minions they will lag behind using any minion related skills like death nova and this itself means when you are ready to engage a mob oftem the minion wall is way behind.

hukoten · Dec 06, 2011, 11:51 PM // 23:51

ah yeah, i have noticed Olias (my usual mm) lagging behind quite often. another annoying side effect of minions i've seen is that guests and even sometimes your own heroes will lag behind trying to heal the minions... XD

does still sound like fun to play with from time to time though, i think i will try to hunt down the last few skills i'd need for it. thanks all! ^_^

undead living · Dec 07, 2011, 02:29 AM // 02:29

I've done lichway with a pug in FoW. Was a good time. Suggestions would be 2 n/mo with heal area. 2 n/p with fall back .

GODh · Dec 07, 2011, 07:54 PM // 19:54

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Originally Posted by LanaDarkess

I was told that the maximum for a character/hero is 10, even if your death magic is over 17.

This is not true as one of my necro heroes uses Masochism. That way his death level raises to 18 and he often has 11 minions...

Dec 06, 2011, 04:01 AM // 04:01	#1
hukoten Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Nov 2011 Profession: W/	Possibly dumb question... minions! looked around the forums and google a bit and didnt see anything on this... is there a minion cap per party? or is it always per character/hero? also, has anyone tried a full minion party? decent mix of skills, but all rits, necros and maybe a ranger or two. is it terrible, op or just plain silly? XD i kind of want to play around with a full minion hero party but i'd have to go get a fair amount of other skills before i do, so i thought i'd ask

Dec 06, 2011, 04:40 AM // 04:40	#3
Calista Blackblood Permanently Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Guild: Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [Hide] Profession: N/	Minions are limited by your rank in death magic http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Death_Magic Aura of the Lich and Masochism will both raise this number __________________ *The best goodbyes are like a knife in the dark: short, simple and to the point*

Dec 06, 2011, 04:20 AM // 04:20	#2
Da Kenster Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: A shoebox Guild: The Boat Crew Profession: W/E	My understanding is that the cap is limited to the individual character and not to the party. When you run multiple MMs they can take up to the cap limit of minions each, so i would assume that this is the case. The rest would depend on the number of corpses/variety of spirits you can summon, I would assume. Nothing like the old days of a real minion rush...

Dec 06, 2011, 06:15 AM // 06:15	#4
gremlin Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: GWAR Profession: Me/Mo	There is a limit per party if you use blood of the master to heal the minions. I have managed to run 3 minion masters and most of the time they had between 8 and 9 minions each. However when you cast bom to heal your minions you heal all 24 which gives a substantial dip in health. If you find another method of healing your army you can in theory get a bigger army.

Dec 06, 2011, 10:28 AM // 10:28	#6
Anime Divine Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2007 Profession: W/	we already have that its called sabway or discordway :P however when i play discord and have plenty of minions to build usually around 10/12 i also use a spirit wall (sos) i find that i can rush into battle as warrior take initial damage and minions take 2nd damage and if enemy warriors escape to the back while your still fighting the front line the spiritwall gives an awesome block. so its kinda like 3 defensive lines now. and you can never go full minion bar only 2 minion skills are enough to create minions till capped. + you need some damage to kill nad create bodys for minions

Dec 06, 2011, 12:47 PM // 12:47	#7
Rushin Roulette Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Right here Guild: Ende	Nope, there is no cap to the amount of minions in the party or the allies. Ive played Vizunah Square with 2 synced teams of each 8 Minionmaster players. I think we managed to get the max amount of minions on every player once or twice in the whole mission. Was a gret blast... especially as we all used Blood of the Master before killing the last foe ending in a gigantic planned wipe (The survivors were creamed by the rogue minions ).

Dec 06, 2011, 01:15 PM // 13:15	#8
LanaDarkess Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Australia Profession: N/	I was told that the maximum for a character/hero is 10, even if your death magic is over 17. But even so, if the max rank in death magic is 20, and assuming you can get 12 minions at that level, if you had 8 members in a party, all MM (don't know why one would do that, but anyway...) that would come to a total of 96 minion cap. The only problem I have with being MM/having MM heroes is that I/they lag behind ALL THE TIME -.-

Dec 06, 2011, 02:10 PM // 14:10	#9
Spiritz Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: DMFC	As pointed out bom can be a pain with multiple mm`s - there is also a slight problem with mm`s - if they are heros they will try and spam raise undead even if they are at max amount.Another slight problem thats noticable with mm`s is the hero ai insists that - if the mm has minions they will lag behind using any minion related skills like death nova and this itself means when you are ready to engage a mob oftem the minion wall is way behind.

Dec 06, 2011, 11:51 PM // 23:51	#10
hukoten Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Nov 2011 Profession: W/	ah yeah, i have noticed Olias (my usual mm) lagging behind quite often. another annoying side effect of minions i've seen is that guests and even sometimes your own heroes will lag behind trying to heal the minions... XD does still sound like fun to play with from time to time though, i think i will try to hunt down the last few skills i'd need for it. thanks all! ^_^

Dec 07, 2011, 02:29 AM // 02:29	#11
undead living Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008 Guild: Nobl Profession: N/Me	I've done lichway with a pug in FoW. Was a good time. Suggestions would be 2 n/mo with heal area. 2 n/p with fall back .